Untangling Ourselves
Stories about how we change

2.1: Brave Dog Training with Anita Frank

What if, instead of seeing “bad” dogs, we see a plea for help?

With safety at stake, dogs pose a challenge to principles of connection and non-coercion. Dogs can be scary! So what happens when, instead of seeing “bad” behavior, we see anxiety and plea for help? Anita from Brave Dog Training Online shares her journey toward trusting relationships and trauma-informed dog training.

Time Stamps

6:24 Psychology of trauma-informed human and dog relationships
21:21 Anita's story of adopting Sammy, her rescue dog
25:47 From coercion and abuse in childhood to collaborative dog training
42:51 Training examples
58:27 Quick tips
1:05:33 Trust, trauma, and healing

Show notes

Brave Dog Training Online on youtube, including Anita's Deep dive on reactivity

Anita's website and podcast: “A Dog’s Soul: An Empath’s Guide to Your Dog’s Feelings”

Free leash reactivity course, as well as marker signals and muzzles.

EMDR for dogs

Free Bonus content: Dog pictures! and a tribute to Sammy

Paid Patreon bonus: video of Anita meeting Toast, plus Kaitlin and Anita talking parenting, love, and grief.

Relationships that are neither invasive nor evasive is from Parker J Palmer’s book, A Hidden Wholeness, referenced by Lee in Season 1 Episode 8.

“Rilke’s image of love offers us a third possibility. Instead of fixing up, or letting down, people who have a problem, we stand with simple attentiveness at the borders of their solitude—trusting that they have within themselves whatever resources they need and that our attentiveness can help bring those resources into play.

A circle of trust consists of relationships that are neither invasive nor evasive. In this space, we neither invade the mystery of another’s true self nor evade another’s struggles. We stay present to each other without wavering, while stifling any impulse to fix each other up.” (64)

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1.8: What Can’t Be Taken: Voice & Community with Lee Hoffman

CW: Mentions of CSA, genocide, feminicide, anti-LGBTQ hate crimes

1.7: Shifting to Trust with Supriya Narang

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Ex-evangelical, disabled, autistic, ASL interpreter's story about inner conflict and accessibility

1.5: Mutual Aid with Andrea Schrimp

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Meeting people where they are, right now.

1.1: Non-Coercion: The Third Option with Delia Tetelman

How does deprogramming from a Christian Campus Cult in the 1980s connect with supporting parents as they navigate neurodivergence today? Delia Tetelman shares her story.

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